Annotation

Session info

This here is a complicated mess.

This is about the April 17 1964, Salle Wagram, Paris, France concert.
Unfortunately, this is very often mixed up with the April 19, Champs-Élysées concert, and most of the releases here either have misspellings, or completely wrong attributions.

Furthermore, "Meditations FCD 102" is actually different on CD and on Vinyl, swapping out Sophisticated Lady for Fables of Faubus.

Here is the most accurate track listing for this concert:

a. Sophisticated Lady 3:20
b. So Long Eric* 28:23/28:51
c. Meditations 22:30
d. Orange Was The Color Of Her Dress 11:35
e. Fables Of Faubus 24:53
f. Parkeriana 24:04/24:12
g. Peggy's Blue Skylight 12:50

Releases discrepancies

* e. possibly was edited down from the original tape at 35:00
* for b. and f. timings are not accurately shown on the sleeves, and are longer on the discs.
* Musidisc 500072 MU 763 and America AM 003-004-005 contain an edited version of b. while they mostly contain April 19 material
* b. is sometimes mis-titled as Goodbye Pork Pie Hat

Overview

FAT WARNING "Parkeriana" Jazz Roots CD 56047

Despite what the sleeve says, this one is from an unrelated concert.
Do NOT add back here, or merge in the records.

Revenge! (32002)

This is the official edition, and the reference nowadays, put out by Sue Mingus to counter the swarm of shit bootlegs of this.

It goes with g, d, c, e, b, f.
It does miss a.

Timings are accurate.

The Salle Wagram Complete Edition, Jazz Collectors JC 428

This is recent, probably a rip of Revenge.

This is a bootleg, and is not "complete".
It also misses a.
It goes with b, f, g, d, c, f.
Timings are about ok.

The rest of this release is completely unrelated (Chico Hamilton + Dolphy stuff).

Meditation FCD 102 (CD and Vinyl)

Cover art is an abstract painting.
This may or may not be legit.

The vinyl is possibly the first issue of this (1987).
It goes with g, d, c, a.

This is the only known release to have a.

Timings are about accurate, save a 20 seconds difference with a.

Interestingly, further CD reissues of this drop a in favor of e.

Live in Paris, Volume 2 FCD 110

Cover art is an abstract painting.
This may or may not be legit.

Continuation to the above, it has b and f.

Packaged with the other FCD (both vinyl and CD), it would still miss e.

Timings are about accurate.

Paris 1964, Volume 2, Charly

Straight rip of above FCD 110.

Paris 1964, Charly and Live in Paris, Charly

These are the same, from the same label, and are just a rip of Meditation FCD 102.

Goodbye Pork Pie Hat Jazz Hour JHR 73516

Some shady rip.

Allegedly published twice, 1989 and 1995.

This goes with d, e, b (mistitled as Goodbye Pork Pie Hat).

Timings are about accurate.

Goodbye Pork Pie Hat Eclipse Music Group 64074-2

Does not seem related to above, though it ships e and b (with the same mis-title).

Timings are about accurate.

Fables of Faubus, Object Enterprises ORO 103

Another shit bootleg.

Goes with e, g, f.

Timings are about accurate.

Annotation last modified on 2023-07-28 20:49 UTC.

Album + Live

ReleaseArtistFormatTracksCountry/DateLabelCatalog#Barcode
Official
Meditation (Initial "France Concert" release, abstract painting on the sleeve, volume 1)Charles MingusCD4
France's ConcertFCD 102
Live in Paris 1964, Volume 2 (Initial "France Concert" release, abstract painting on the sleeve, volume 2)Charles MingusCD2
France's ConcertFCD 110
Revenge! (Reference, official release)Charles Mingus2×CD4 + 2
Revenge! Records (Sue Mingus "anti-bootleg" offensive)32002604123200226
Bootleg
Goodbye Pork Pie Hat ("Jazz Hour" shady print)Charles MingusCD3
Jazz HourJHR 735168712177005031
Fables of Faubus (shady bootleg copy)Charles MingusCD3
Object EnterprisesORO 1035014797181038
Paris 1964 ("Charly", straight rip of Meditation FCD 102)Charles MingusCD4
Charly RecordsLe Jazz CD 19082333204829
Goodbye Pork Pie Hat ("Jazz Hour" shady print, reissue from 95)Charles MingusCD3
  • US1995-05-12
Jazz HourJHR 73516789368175321
Paris 1964, Volume 2 ("Charly Records", rip of Live in Paris Volume 2 FCD 110)Charles MingusCD2
Charly RecordsCD 38
Goodbye Pork Pie Hat ("Eclipse Music" release, unrelated to the "Jazz Hour" release of the same name)Charles MingusCD2
Eclipse Music Group (imprint of Eclipse Music Group, Inc.)64074-2078736407424
The Bass Player ("Weton-Wesgram" shit release - straight rip of Meditation FCD 102)Charles MingusCD4
Weton-WesgramJazz Pack 0168712155071515
The Salle Wagram Concert - Complete Edition ("Jazz Collectors" shady bundle of Revenge! and some unrelated Chico Hamilton tracks)Charles Mingus & Eric Dolphy2×CD4 + 9
  • XE2009-10-06
Jazz CollectorsJC 4288436019584286
(unknown)
Live in ParisCharles MingusCD4
  • -2001
Charly RecordsSNAP 062803415106226

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