This page has been moved here for historical purposes only.

This project is permanently at a halt. It's an example of how, no matter how much energy and effort you put into something, all it can take is one other person to eventually sap any enjoyment you feel, and any desire to continue, if that person goes negative often enough. Purposefully destructive edits and insulting comments ought to not happen anywhere on this site - and rather than continue to deal with them, I've cancelled this project effective May 28, 2007.

BrianFreud

: This is a pity, it looks like you planned a great deal of work. --MLL

• : I agree. This is realy bad 'news' for the community. Couldn't you turn up your *ignore* level a bit? - Locustus

'''The Nirvana Project'''

GOAL: 100% everything on one artist in MusicBrainz

Artists involved:

Not to be covered: Foo Fighters, Mind Funk, Mudhoney, The Melvins, Soundgarden, The Germs, 45 Grave, Adolescents, Probot, Queens of the Stone Age, The Tater Totz, anything Courtney Love except for as listed above.

• Fix all existing titles and tracknames DONE

• Convert live multi-disc titles to Gecks' suggested mix of LBS and VolumeStyle

• Create and link in pre-cursor bands as artists, without creating artist clusters DONE

• Add all circulating recordings not already in database DONE 4/30/2007

• Add all pressed recording bootlegs not already in database DONE 5/1/2007 - Recheck after all else done

• Track down tracklists for "Live" circulating recordings, scrub releases for errors

• Track down track times for "Live" circulating recordings, add to release info

• Track down tracklists for "Other" circulating recordings, scrub releases for errors (See below for status)

• Track down track times for "Other" circulating recordings, add to release info

• Link to some of the more decent official and bootleg reference sites on this wiki DONE 5/4/2007

• Convert appropriate tracks to LiveTrackStyle

• Add ARs for everything

• Add review links, where possible DONE 5/9/2007

• Add wiki links, where possible DONE 5/10/2007

• Add discogs links, where possible DONE (except for Outcesticide vol 5 which has pending edits) 5/12/2007

• Go though sliver.it for missing releases and release event info

• Go through LN's Vinyl guide for missing releases and release event info

• Go through Pennyroyal-3 for missing releases and release event info

• Add all Release event info

• Move early release entries to appropriate earlier-band-name artists DONE 5/2/2007 - Recheck in 2 weeks, after votes take effect

• Add mislabels info to this wiki

• Remove mislabels info from annotation DONE 5/4/2007

• Add timeline & prior-name links to annotations

• Check individual band member artist pages for errors

• Last step: Recheck all releases for errors

• Track down original release/artists for cover songs, add to db if not present

• Setlist info

Decent reference sites

Nirvana Archive - Good for pressed boots for LTS Nirvana Live Guide - Good for circulating recordings and show trivia Live Nirvana - Good for just about everything

Status for scrubbing "Live" releases against LiveNirvana recording track lists

Only listing *live* shows not yet scrubbed for errors:

• 1989-07-12: J.C. Dobbs, Philadelphia, PA, USA

• 1989-07-18: Pyramid Club (New Music Seminar), New York, NY, USA

• 1989-08-26: Center on Contemporary Art, Seattle, WA, USA

• 1989-09-30: Cabaret Metro, Chicago, IL, USA

• 1989-10-03: Blind Pig, Ann Arbor, MI, USA

• 1989-10-06: Murphy's Pub, Cincinnati, OH, USA

• 1989-10-11: The Garage, Denver, CO, USA

• 1989-10-24: Students' Union, Manchester Polytechnic, Manchester, UK

• 1989-10-28: Ents Hall, Portsmouth Polytechnic, Portsmouth, UK

• 1989-11-02: Vera, Groningen, The Netherlands

• 1989-11-05: Melkweg, Amsterdam, The Netherlands

• 1989-11-07: B-52, Moenchengladbach, West Germany

• 1989-11-08: Rose Club, Cologne, West Germany

• 1989-11-09: Bad, Hanover, West Germany

• 1989-11-11: Ecstasy, Berlin, West Germany

• 1989-11-13: Fabrik, Hamburg, West Germany

• 1989-11-15: Schwimmbad Musik-Club, Heidelberg, West Germany

• 1989-11-17: Circus, Gammelsdorf, West Germany

• 1989-11-20: Kapu, Linz, Austria

• 1989-11-26: Bloom, Mezzago, Italy

• 1989-11-27: Piper Club, Rome, Italy

• 1989-12-01: MJC Fahrenheit, Issy-les-Moulineaux, France

• 1990-01-06: HUB East Ballroom, University of Washington, Seattle, WA, USA

• 1990-02-09: Pine Street Theatre, Portland, OR, USA

• 1990-02-11: Cactus Club, San Jose, CA, USA

• 1990-02-12: Cattle Club, Sacramento, CA, USA

• 1990-02-14: Kennel Club, San Francisco, CA, USA

• 1990-02-15: Raji's, Hollywood, CA, USA

• 1990-02-16: Bogart's, Long Beach, CA, USA

• 1990-02-17: Iguana's, Tijuana, Mexico

• 1990-02-19: The Mason Jar, Phoenix, AZ, USA

• 1990-04-01: Cabaret Metro, Chicago, IL, USA

• 1990-04-09: 7th Street Entry, Minneapolis, MN, USA

• 1990-04-16: Lees Palace, Toronto, ON, Canada

• 1990-04-17: Foufounes Électriques, Montréal, QC, Canada

• 1990-04-18: Manray Nightclub, Cambridge, MA, USA

• 1990-04-26: Pyramid Club, New York, NY, USA

• 1990-04-28: Maxwell's, Hoboken, NJ, USA

• 1990-04-29: 9:30 Club, Washington, DC, USA

• 1990-05-01: Cat's Cradle, Chapel Hill, NC, USA

• 1990-10-11: North Shore Surf Club, Olympia, WA, USA

• 1990-10-26: Calton Studios, Edinburgh, UK

• 1990-10-27: Byron Building, Trent Polytechnic, Nottingham, UK

• 1991-01-18: Library 4300, Evergreen State College (No More Wars Benefit), Olympia, WA, USA

• 1991-04-17: O.K. Hotel, Seattle, WA, USA

• 1991-06-17: Crest Theatre, Sacramento, CA, USA

• 1991-06-20: Melody Ballroom, Portland, OR, USA

• 1991-08-20: Sir Henry's, Cork, Ireland

• 1991-08-23: Richfield Avenue (Reading Festival), Reading, UK

• 1991-08-24: Tanzbrunnen (Monsters of Spex), Cologne, Germany

• 1991-08-25: Domein Kiewit (Pukkelpop), Hasselt, Belgium

• 1991-08-27: Aladin (Überschall 91), Bremen, Germany

• 1991-09-01: De Doelen (Ein Abend in Wien), Rotterdam, the Netherlands

• 1991-09-16: Beehive Music & Video, Seattle, WA, USA

• 1991-09-20: The Opera House, Toronto, ON, Canada

• 1991-09-21: Foufounes Électriques, Montréal, QC, Canada

• 1991-09-23: WFNX Birthday Bash, Axis Nightclub, Boston, MA, USA

• 1991-09-24: Axis Nightclub, Boston, MA, USA

• 1991-09-25: Club Babyhead, Providence, RI, USA

• 1991-09-26: The Moon, New Haven, CT, USA

• 1991-09-28: Marquee Club, New York, NY

• 1991-10-01: J.C. Dobbs, Philadelphia, PA

• 1991-10-02: 9:30 Club, Washington, DC, USA

• 1991-10-04: Cat's Cradle, Chapel Hill, NC, USA

• 1991-10-06: The Masquerade, Atlanta, GA, USA

• 1991-10-10: Empire Concert Club, Cleveland, OH, USA

• 1991-10-11: St. Andrew's Hall, Detroit, MI, USA

• 1991-10-12: Cabaret Metro, Chicago, IL, USA

• 1991-10-12: Dressed for Success, Cabaret Metro, Chicago, IL, USA

• 1991-10-14: First Avenue Club, Minneapolis, MN, USA

• 1991-10-19: Trees, Dallas, TX, USA

• 1991-10-21: Liberty Lunch, Austin, TX, USA

• 1991-10-23: After the Gold Rush, Tempe, AZ, USA

• 1991-10-24: Off the Record, San Diego, CA, USA

• 1991-10-25: Rock for Choice Benefit, The Palace, Hollywood, CA, USA

• 1991-10-26: Warfield Theatre, San Francisco, CA, USA

• 1991-10-27: The Palace, Hollywood, CA, USA

• 1991-10-29: Fox Theatre, Portland, OR, USA

• 1991-10-30: Commodore Ballroom, Vancouver, BC, Canada

• 1991-10-31: Paramount Theatre, Seattle, WA, USA

• 1991-11-04: Bierkeller, Bristol, UK

• 1991-11-05: Astoria Theatre, London, UK

• 1991-11-06: Wulfrun Hall, Wolverhampton, UK

• 1991-11-08: The Word, Channel 4 Studios, London, UK

• 1991-11-10: Loft, Berlin, Germany

• 1991-11-11: Markthalle, Hamburg, Germany

• 1991-11-13: Nachtwerk, Munich, Germany

• 1991-11-14: Arena, Vienna, Austria

• 1991-11-16: Teatro Verdi, Muggia, Italy

• 1991-11-17: Bloom, Mezzago, Italy

• 1991-11-19: Il Castello, Rome, Italy

• 1991-11-20: Kryptonight, Baricella, Italy

• 1991-11-29: Calton Studios, Edinburgh, UK

• 1991-11-30: Queen Margaret Union, University of Glasgow, Glasgow, UK

• 1991-12-03: Rock City, Nottingham, UK

• 1991-12-05: Kilburn National Ballroom, London, UK

• 1991-12-06: Tonight With Jonathan Ross, Channel 4 Studios, London, UK

• 1991-12-28: Pat O'Brien Pavilion, Del Mar Fairgrounds, Del Mar, CA, USA

• 1991-12-29: University Activity Center, Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ, USA

• 1991-12-31: Cow Palace, San Francisco, CA, USA

• 1992-01-02: Salem Armory, Salem, OR, USA

• 1992-01-24: Phoenician Club, Sydney, Australia

• 1992-01-25: Big Day Out, Hordern Pavilion, Sydney, Australia

• 1992-01-30: The Barton Theatre, Adelaide, Australia

• 1992-01-31: The Palace, Melbourne, Australia

• 1992-02-01: The Palace, Melbourne, Australia

• 1992-02-05: ANU Union Bar, the Australian National University, Canberra, Australia

• 1992-02-06: Selina's, Coogee Bay Hotel, Sydney, Australia

• 1992-02-07: Selina's, The Coogee Bay Hotel, Sydney, Australia

• 1992-02-14: Kokusai Koryu Center, Osaka, Japan

• 1992-02-16: Club Quattro, Nagoya, Japan

• 1992-02-19: Nakano Sunplaza, Tokyo, Japan

• 1992-02-22: Pink's Garage, Honolulu, HI, USA

• 1992-06-21: The Point Theatre, Dublin, Ireland

• 1992-06-22: The King's Hall, Belfast, UK

• 1992-06-24: Le Zénith, Paris, France

• 1992-06-26: Roskilde Festival, Dyrskuepladsen, Roskilde, Denmark

• 1992-06-27: Ruisrock, Kansanpuisto, Turku, Finland

• 1992-06-28: Kalvøyafestivalen, Kalvøya, Sandvika, Norway

• 1992-06-30: Sjöhistoriska Museet, Stockholm, Sweden

• 1992-07-02: Plaza De Toros De Valencia, Valencia, Spain

• 1992-07-03: Palacio De Los Deportes De La Comunidad De Madrid, Madrid, Spain

• 1992-09-09: MTV Video Music Awards, Edwin W. Pauley Pavilion, UCLA, Los Angeles, CA, USA

• 1992-09-10: No on 9 Benefit, Portland Meadows, Portland, OR, USA

• 1992-09-11: Washington Music Industry Coalition Benefit, Seattle Center Coliseum, Seattle, WA, USA, USA

• 1992-10-03: Sam Carver Gymnasium, Western Washington University, Bellingham, WA, USA

• 1992-10-04: Crocodile Cafe, Seattle, WA, USA, USA

• 1993-01-16: Hollywood Rock Festival, Estádio Cícero Pompeu De Toledo, São Paulo, Brazil

• 1993-01-23: Hollywood Rock Festival, Praça Da Apoteose, Rio De Janeiro, Brazil

• 1993-09-23: Saturday Night Live Rehearsal, NBC Studios, New York, NY, USA

• 1993-10-18: Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Arizona State Fairgrounds, Phoenix, AZ, USA

• 1993-10-21: Memorial Hall, Kansas City, KS, USA

• 1993-10-22: Palmer Alumni Auditorium, Palmer College of Chiropractic, Davenport, IA, USA

• 1993-10-23: Aragon Ballroom, Chicago, IL, USA

• 1993-10-26: MECCA Auditorium, Milwaukee, WI, USA

• 1993-10-29: Michigan State Fairgrounds Coliseum, Detroit, MI, USA

• 1993-10-30: Hara Arena, Dayton, OH, USA

• 1993-10-31: James a. Rhodes Arena, University of Akron, Akron, OH, USA

• 1993-11-02: Auditorium de Verdun, Verdun, QC, Canada

• 1993-11-04: Maple Leaf Gardens, Toronto, ON, Canada

• 1993-11-05: Alumni Arena, University at Buffalo, Amherst, NY, USA

• 1993-11-09: Stabler Arena, Lehigh University, Bethlehem, PA, USA

• 1993-11-10: Springfield Civic Center, Springfield, MA, USA

• 1993-11-12: George Wallace Civic Center, Fitchburg, MA, USA

• 1993-11-13: Bender Arena, American University, Washington, DC, USA

• 1993-11-14: New York Coliseum, New York, NY, USA

• 1993-11-15: Roseland Ballroom, New York, NY, USA

• 1993-11-27: AT & T Amphitheater at Bayfront Park, Miami, FL, USA

• 1993-11-29: Omni Coliseum, Atlanta, GA, USA

• 1993-12-02: Tallahassee-Leon County Civic Center, Tallahassee, FL, USA

• 1993-12-03: Senator Nat G. Kiefer UNO Lakefront Arena, University of New Orleans, New Orleans, LA, USA

• 1993-12-05: Fair Park Coliseum, Dallas, TX, USA

• 1993-12-08: Travel and Transportation Building, State Fair Park, Oklahoma City, OK, USA

• 1993-12-13: MTV Live and Loud Rehearsal, Pier 48, Seattle, WA, USA

• 1994-01-07: Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA, USA

• 1994-02-06: Pavilhão do Grupo Dramático e Sportivo de Cascais, Cascais, Portugal

Tracking down/adding originals for cover songs

Combined setlist info

Section removed - I find that LiveNirvana has already done this work with access to more complete info than I can hope to have.

Modify this url to find the show you need (need to change the /90/ and the date).

http://www.livenirvana.com/tourhistory/90/02-14-90.php

Correct Song Identification

Jesus * Sunbeam - We've standardized on "Jesus Doesn't Want Me For a Sunbeam"

Where Did You Sleep Last Night - We've standardized on "Where Did You Sleep Last Night?" (With the question mark)

Heart-Shaped Box - Except for a few release titles where other reasons exist, titles and tracks all ought to include the hyphen.

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The "Fun" ones...

Ok, first, Sad, Seed, and Sappy. These are among the oldest, most renamed songs. Then let's also throw in "Verse Chorus Verse", just because it's so intertwined...

In 1988, Kurt released a demo tape he'd made, which he titled "'Mellow, 4-track shit". It had three songs on it: Sad, Polly, and Seed.

(Actually, he released a few tapes, one which was just the three songs, one had 4 other songs, and one with all 7 songs)

Now if that were the end of it, things would be easy. Problem is, Kurt didn't label the tape. And, he liked to change the names of songs. However, he did refer to the songs, naming them (as quoted in the officially licensed book _Come_As_You_Are_). There also exist a few early setlists with some of these names on them. Thus, it's possible to track 2 of the songs through their various name changes.

• Sad: Identified from early setlists, it was later retitled Trophy for a short while in November 1989. The first known use of "Trophy" was a setlist from 11/9/1989. The last known use for that title was 11/22/1989. It then was soon after renamed as "Sappy". (On the setlist, by the way, recall that these were Kurt songs, not Nirvana, so it would be listed as a "new song" for Nirvana at the time, even if not necessarily for Kurt himself). Each version had somewhat different lyrics, and thus probally ought to be properly identified by the correct name for the time. So...

  • Prior to Nov 9, 1989: Use "Sad"

  • Between Nov 9, 1989 and Nov 22, 1989: Use "Trophy"

  • After Nov 22, 1989 (and as listed on all official releases): Use "Sappy"

  • Mislabels I know of:

    • Seed

    • The Rocker

    • Happy Again

    • Make Him Happy

    • The Grasshopper

    • No Alternative

    • Laundry Room

    • Another Rule

    • Everything And Nothing

    • Final Flight

    • Happy

    • Happy Hour

    • If You Kill Yourself

    • Make You Happy

    • Mistero

    • Shappy

    • Untitled III

    • Verce Chorus Verse

  • Sometimes also confused and mislabeled as: Verse Chorus Verse

• Polly: Lyrics never really changed, but the name did change over time. Initially, Kurt supposedly named it "Hitchhiker". When he referred to it later, it was "Cracker". However, whenever he wrote it in a setlist, and when it was released, the name "Polly" was used.

  • Mislabels I know of: (None)

• Seed: Seed is the most difficult, as it was rarely played. It was never really a Nirvana song - more a Kurt song. The only time it ever was released was on the box set. Because it wasn't a Nirvana song, but Krist and Dave were trying to include at least some early stuff (the lawsuit with Courtney was blocking them using some early material), they included it, but weren't sure of the title. They ended up just using a title from one of the bootlegs. This one is basically only easy to ID because copies of Kurt's tape are themselves available, allowing people to narrow down which three songs he meant when he referred to "Seed, Sad, and Cracker". Now, from above, we already know which songs are Sad and "Cracker", which just leaves one song which can possibly be "Seed". We then can use the lyrics and tune from that track to ID it again on those few times it was played live.

  • Mislabels I know of:

    • Don't Want It All

    • Misery Loves Company

    • Unexpected

    • Spectre

    • Maiden Circle

    • Look For Company

    • The Extreme

  • Sometimes also confused and mislabeled as: Sad / Molly's Lips

• Verse Chorus Verse: Because the name was reused more than a few times, it was always difficult to narrow down just what rare song was which, and which rare song Kurt actually ended up giving the title "Verse Chorus Verse" to. The box set release identified one song as VCV, which allowed a lot of the other confusions to fall away. Most of the time, though, (including on the No Alternative CD), people were referring to Sappy, but calling it VCV.

Bootlegs that still need covers to be found